Saturday, December 15, 2007

What does help consist of?

(This has caused quite a stir on the Statesmen Journal Website. Thanks for the heads up Erin V)

Church members were too busy to help needy man

PATTI WARKENTIN

December 13, 2007

On a recent weekend, I joined with other volunteers in decorating our church for the Christmas season.

Saturday morning as I was pulling into a parking spot, I noticed a man sitting on the steps of a church building. He was tucked back under the porch protecting himself from the blustery rain storm. With snow on its way, I felt sad for this man who was bound for a miserably cold day!

I parked and went inside the church. The church I attend is a large church and decorating it is no small task. We decorated eight towering evergreens and 10 smaller evergreens all with lights and ornaments aplenty. Underneath each tree were empty boxes wrapped in colors that matched the decorated trees.

The worship center was festooned with brightly lit garlands. The garlands supported giant wreaths. The lobby decorations needed to be strategically placed so as to not block six wall-mounted flat-screen TV monitors used to advertise church programs.

Also of significant concern were the "IMAGINE" banners that adorn the church, reminding us of the fundraising process going on for a new building.

We had been working for about an hour when I glanced down the hallway and noticed the homeless man standing at the door of the church, just looking in. I don't think he was knocking, just looking in. In the flurry of activity, no one seemed to notice him.

I went down the hallway and opened the locked door so he could come in. He just wanted to use the bathroom. After showing him where the bathroom was, I looked around hoping to find a man that might be available to visit a bit with him. Everyone was busy!

As he exited the bathroom, I brought him into the partially decorated lobby and offered him a cup of coffee, a scone and a place to sit that was warm and dry. He stayed for about five minutes and then left. No one visited with him ... we were all too busy!

As he left, and since then, I have been struck by the contrasts of that moment. A church full of people preparing to celebrate Christmas. The coming of Jesus -- the very Jesus who had time for the sick, the poor, the prostitute, the demon-possessed, the wealthy, the leader, the foreigner, the lost, the hungry, the dying, the broken -- and we were too busy to celebrate His love by loving others.

A church full of people who have TV monitors advertising programs and new buildings promising new programs, and we were too busy to stop, listen and love!

Patti Warkentin of Salem is a working mom, grandmother and volunteer. She can be reached at pattirandall@comcast.net

Wednesday, December 12, 2007

Talking Points

http://www.georgefox.edu/journalonline/archives/fall05/emerging.html

this is a very good article that you can read below or use the above address yourself. (courtesy of Mr Tom V)

GEORGE FOX JOURNAL: What is the emergent church?
LEN SWEET: It probably would mean something different to everyone you would ask, but from my perspective, the “emergent church” is an ongoing conversation about how new times call for new churches, and that the mortar- happy church of the last half of the 20th century is ill-poised to face the promises and perils of the future. In fact, attempting to define the “emergent church” betrays the essence of the movement because the emergent consciousness questions the notion that there is such a thing. Rather, there are only individual emerging churches that are missional in orientation that grow out of the indigenous soils in which they are planted. In other words, no two emerging churches are alike.

GFJ: Are there some common practices in emerging churches?
LEN SWEET: Pews are now antiques. Since the focus of emerging churches is on community, their worship space is flexible. Some have tables and chairs. Others have a more living room look and feel. But emerging churches are proving to be very surprising. For example, hymns are now back. And the church’s liturgy and Eucharist are being rediscovered in creative and compelling ways. A lot of emerging churches are very “smells and bells” in their worship. Whatever the diversity of spiritual practices, the key words for emerging churches are incarnational, missional, and relational.

GFJ: Can you explain those key terms?
LEN SWEET: I’ll try ... although books literally have been written on each.
• Incarnational: That means that Christianity does not go through time like water in a straw. It passes through cultural prisms and historical periods, which means that Christianity is organic. And like with any living thing, in order for things to stay the same, they have to change. There are some who think that Christianity is meant to stand in and for itself as a bounded discourse, impervious to cultural influences. That’s one reason it took the Vatican 300 years to come around to heliocentrism: the idea that the sun, not the earth, was at the center.
• Missional: Does the church face inward or outward? A missional church faces outward toward the world, not like a porcupine stands against its enemies, but like water fills every container without losing its content. In fact, many in the emerging church reject the dichotomy between the church and the world . For too long, churches have faced inward, offering religion as a benefits package — something that “meets my needs” or offers good outcomes.
I tell churches to look at their mission statement. Many of them are no more than self-statements, not mission statements. This is how you can tell. Is your mission statement based on how to get people to go into the world, or how to get more people to come to church? The missional mantra that people are saying today is this: The church is measured, not by its seating capacity, but by its sending capacity.
• Relational: The gospel is all about the formation of community. The individualistic “meet my needs” orientation is seen as antagonistic to the ministry of Jesus. The African word ubuntu is often used, which literally means “It takes a ‘we’ to make a ‘me.’’ Emerging churches are discovering the “we” part of “me.”

GFJ: So it’s the incarnational characteristic of emerging churches that threatens its critics. Some remark that when churches try to become “relevant,” they really mean “relative.” True?
LEN SWEET: There is all too much panic over that word relative. I believe in absolute truth (which I believe, by the way, is Jesus the Christ, the way, the truth, the life — notice here that absolute truth is not abstract truth, but incarnate truth). The notion that there are no absolutes is self-defeating and self-contradictory.
Not all truth is absolute. Some truth is relative — to a person, to a culture, to a historical period. What brings together absolute truth and relative truth is relational truth.

GFJ: Then you are not connecting the concept of relative truth with the idea that it’s equally valid to choose any of the “many paths to God.” What are some examples of relative truth that you do endorse?
LEN SWEET: Relativism is illogical and selfdefeating. If all truth is relative, what is the truth status of the assertion that all truth is relative? What I am trying to do is end the apartheid of absolutism and relativism in Christian theology. I am a relative absolutist. That means that absolute truth has to become incarnate in relative time. Faith is for the living of this hour, and the Bible has reference to and relevance for the living of this hour.
The world in which Jesus came could not conceive of a world without slavery. In fact, the ancient economy was based on slavery. Jesus did not deal violently with human nature and first-century culture. He did not go about brandishing “absolute truth.” He dealt tenderly and patiently with the culture and people of his day. If he was harsh with anyone, it was the religious establishment. By regulating our treatments of others, and rejiggering our thinking about others, Jesus led us inexorably into a place where things like slavery and polygamy were abolished.
Just as absolute truth had to be made relative to the culture in which it was first proclaimed, so absolute truth today must be made relative to our day and to our 21st-century culture.

GFJ: How are emerging churches any more relational than evangelical mainstream churches? Isn’t this what small groups are all about?
LEN SWEET: Much of the evangelical mainstream makes small groups a program of the church. It’s an add-on, or a drive-through. In emerging churches, community is constitutive of their identity. It’s the very essence of who they are. There is also a relational component of the theology of the emerging church, where truth is seen more in relational than in propositional terms. After all, God didn’t send us a principle. God sent us a person. God didn’t send us a statement. God sent us a savior . . . who is Christ the Lord.

GFJ: How are emerging churches distinctively missional?
LEN SWEET: Karl Rahner, the great 20thcentury Catholic theologian, referred to what he called Thermos-bottle Christianity. This is a form of pseudo-church where you keep everything inside warm and cozy and fresh, but let the outside freeze and take care of itself. Missional churches are focused on what God is doing in the world. Their circles face outward, not inward. This is a culture that loves gated communities, and there are gated churches to match. Missional churches are putting back together what for too long has been rent asunder: the whole gospel, both the personal gospel (evangelism), and the social gospel (justice and kingdom ministries).

GFJ: Please elaborate on what it means to promote justice and kingdom ministries. Can you share a few examples?
LEN SWEET: It seems like every other week I have a favorite book. But for a few months now my favorite book has been Greg Paul’s God in the Alley. Greg is pastor of a church in Toronto called Sanctuary, a community of people who have covenanted with each other to focus on the people who live and work on the streets of Toronto: the homeless, drug addicts, dealers, prostitutes, etc. There are other churches similarly focused on peace or on hunger. Woodman Valley Chapel in Colorado Springs adopted a squatter camp in Johannesburg, South Africa, and sends youth and others there to help elevate these poorest places on our planet.

GFJ: Finally, why might a pastor of an emerging church tell me I should follow Christ? And so what if I don’t?
LEN SWEET: Everybody follows someone. We all give our lives to something. The only questions are who, or what? I invite you to give your life to Jesus.
I like how philosopher Dallas Willard does it: He challenges his students to the reality test: Put Jesus into practice.
Go ahead. Got someone better than Jesus in mind to follow? OK, try someone else first. Put Sigmund Freud into practice. Put Charles Darwin into practice. Put Karl Marx into practice. Put Aristotle into practice. Put Plato into practice. Put Pablo Picasso into practice.
The only who or what that can stand up to the reality test is Jesus the Christ, who is bold enough to say to each of us, “I am the way, the truth, and the life.”
There’s only one reason to follow Christ: Truth. Truth or consequences. GFJ

Sunday, December 9, 2007

GREETINGS!!

We are a small group of like/unlike minded people. Who get together once a week to look at the bible and discuss it as well as other subjects centering mainly around questions of Theology as well as Philosophy and how these things affect the church today. IE: We, this week, discussed the modern Christian Bible and what it means to us. The discussion ranged from it's legitimacy and authority in today's world. To the forming of the Bible and how that came about. We talked about the translation of the Bible from its original language to English as well as the Catholic bible as compared to the Protestant one. As we move forward this will be a place for questions to be asked and hopefully answered and a round table, if you will, to allow others to join in the conversation. So, please, grab your beverage of choice, have a seat and join the discussion. But please remember to introduce yourself and be respectful. This isn't a place to abuse others or to prove your point by tearing people down. That being said I am Lance and I am a political science major and philosophy minor at Western Oregon University and I love open and honest dialog. I am only the host of the blog, I am not the boss, I am only here to facilitate and hopefully keep things friendly. So feel free to jump in the water is fine.